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#46966 - 01/04/06 09:45 AM HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Getting ready to pull the trigger on an HR10-250 as they have finally gotten more affordable.

If you have HD now with Directv I'd like to hear if you have either the HBO or Showtime package. I'd like to order one but really don't need both in addition to the Directv HD package. Trying to decide.

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#46967 - 01/04/06 10:39 AM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Talking about satellite stuff is a big no no....even legal talk


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#46968 - 01/04/06 12:26 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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moneyguru said:
Talking about satellite stuff is a big no no....even legal talk


tsk tsk tsk





HUH?

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#46969 - 01/04/06 01:00 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Ditto.

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#46970 - 01/04/06 01:57 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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moneyguru said:
Talking about satellite stuff is a big no no....even legal talk


tsk tsk tsk



What are you on MG? Advice about legit electronics purchases is perferctly fine.
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#46971 - 01/04/06 02:45 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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That's not what I've been told....
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#46972 - 01/04/06 03:39 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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I think you misundestood.

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#46973 - 01/04/06 04:18 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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DEwillget8 said:
Getting ready to pull the trigger on an HR10-250 as they have finally gotten more affordable.

If you have HD now with Directv I'd like to hear if you have either the HBO or Showtime package. I'd like to order one but really don't need both in addition to the Directv HD package. Trying to decide.

Thanks in advance.



I have one of these and I love it. Love being able to record two channels at the same time while watching something I already recorded. The only fault with this unit is that it will really slow down after awhile. Just to setup a recording sometimes can take a few minutes. You have to occasionally go to setup and do a reset which means that if you have a lot of season pass stuff setup you lose. But other than that I can't figure out how I lived without this unit. I'd definitely never not have one or whatever the next generation unit will be in the future..

As far as which package to choose. Well I have a total choice package so I get both. But if I were to choose one or the other I'd probably have to go with HBO. But with either it's only one HD channel. All the other channels be it HBO or Showtime will be SD....
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#46974 - 01/04/06 04:48 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Thanks, I was leaning towards HBO as I like their original progamming.
I was mostly wondering about the movie selection between the two. HD and regular programming that is. Does one have bigger blockbusters sooner than the other or anything like that ?

I currently have the regular Tivo DVR for DirecTV and you are correct. I can't imagine living without it now.

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#46975 - 01/04/06 05:55 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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DEwillget8 said:
I think you misundestood.




Nope, I was told very specificly "no satellite talk at all".
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#46976 - 01/04/06 06:02 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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moneyguru said:
Quote:

DEwillget8 said:
I think you misundestood.




Nope, I was told very specificly "no satellite talk at all".



Well I think talking about something like what DE was asking is ok. It's all legal and was really more of a home theater question relating to high definition really more than satelitte TV...
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#46977 - 01/05/06 02:46 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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I have DishNetwork and have both HBO HD and Showtime HD.

I can't really say which I watch more. They both show decent movies. But HBO gets more play when Bill Mahrhererer is on.
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#46978 - 01/06/06 02:32 AM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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That's one funny little man.

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#46979 - 01/10/06 03:38 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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mrhappy said:
That's one funny little man.


He's a horse's ass, but he can be funny. The worst part about watching his show is the fear that I will throw something through my big screen.
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#46980 - 01/10/06 03:50 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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HD10-250 Shows up on the 24th

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#46981 - 01/11/06 10:32 AM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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How much it set you back? Is it mpeg4 capable? Dish announced mpeg4 going forward for HD. So did Dave.
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#46982 - 01/11/06 10:56 AM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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$399 is the current offer for existing customers with first 3 months of programming free. When they first came out I think they were $1200 or more.

I don't know about mpeg4 as long as I can watch HD on my bigscreen. Finally.

Here is the spec sheet.

http://www.directv.com/imagine/PDF/HD_DVR.pdf

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#46983 - 01/11/06 04:47 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Well if it won't do mpeg4, you won't be able to watch any HD additions to the programming lineup.
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#46984 - 01/11/06 04:51 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Huh ?

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#46985 - 01/11/06 05:07 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Just did some googling research and learned what you speak of. Looks like they have been talking about the switch for over a year.

Hopefully if it happens Directv will offer some sort of swap out program or an upgrade to the HR10-250 as it appears it only handles mpeg2 at this time.

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#46986 - 01/11/06 05:14 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Well the HD locals they have in 12 markets over the satellite is mpeg4 and any future HD is going to be mpeg4.

Found this from http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=127160&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=799955

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To receive local HD channels, DIRECTV now offers the new H20 HD receiver and a satellite dish that has the ability to receive programming from five different orbital locations. The H20 HD set-top is the first DIRECTV receiver to process MPEG-4, the next-generation transmission standard supporting a wide range of audio and video modes and transmission speeds. MPEG-4, coupled with the launch of new satellites, is set to lay the foundation for the best high-definition television experience available anywhere.




The million dollar (or $399) question is whether the mpeg2 units can be upgraded to mpeg4. I'll keep looking to see if they can or will be upgraded.

edit: I found this.. They are planning to offer an mpeg4/mpeg2 compliant DVR the middle of this year.

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DIRECTV PLUS(R) HD DVR

The DIRECTV(R) Plus HD DVR (HR20) combines the best entertainment with unprecedented control and convenience to create the ultimate TV viewing experience. It brings together the new DIRECTV Plus DVR and DIRECTV HD Receiver. Viewers are able to record one HD program while watching another and record two different shows at the same time, while watching a pre-recorded program. The DIRECTV Plus HD DVR gives the user the ability to pause and rewind live HD TV up to 90 minutes, use instant replay and watch in slow motion. The DIRECTV Plus HD DVR is able to record more than 30 hours of DIRECTV HD programming delivered in MPEG-2, or up to 50 hours of DIRECTV HD programming delivered in MPEG-4, or up to 200 hours of standard-definition programming. In addition, the DIRECTV Plus HD DVR is MPEG-4 compatible, and is the first DIRECTV HD receiver with interactive capabilities. DIRECTV plans to launch the DIRECTV Plus HD DVR at retail mid-2006.




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#46987 - 01/11/06 05:17 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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F#$%ers !!!!

I'm calling tonight and cancelling my order !!!


Thanks for bringing this to my attention A_M. This really sux. I have the regular Directv Tivo unit right now and I'm addicted to Tivo. Looks like they are dumping Tivo and going to just a DVR service.

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#46988 - 01/11/06 05:39 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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You will still be able to get their current HD offerings except locals through the satellite. but anything new you won't. And you will lose all HD when they convert the existing line up.
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#46989 - 01/11/06 07:57 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Will you no longer be able to SEE the HD channels or just not be able to record them?
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#46990 - 01/11/06 08:03 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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#46991 - 01/11/06 09:35 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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mak said:
Will you no longer be able to SEE the HD channels or just not be able to record them?


Yes and No.

Currently satellite HD is broadcast in mpeg2. HBO HD and ShowtimeHD TNT16x9, DiscoveryHD, etc.

Anything that is to be added by Dish and Dave is going to be in mpeg4. Say Dave and Dick add National Geographic HD which is coming online 1st Q '06. It will be offered in mpeg4 only. If you have one of today's receivers you will get everything but NG HD. The mpeg4 stream can't be converted by the old receiver. You need to have the new receiver/DVR to watch that channel.

Eventually all of the old mpeg2 HD channels will be switched over to mpeg4. Then you will be up shit creek. No HD through the dish.

But Mak, you are prolly on to something. Maybe DE should find out how he will be treated when the Dave HD DVR comes out if he popped $399 for the old mpeg2 one.

For Dish, I paid $299 one-time lease for the HD DVR. They have already committed to a $99 upgrade cost to me in April. But if they are a standard non-hddvr sub, they can upgrade for $299.

So it is a crap shoot on DE's part. My guess is if they are finally making the committment to HD, they will take care of their current HD customers. But you never know. In my case, I still woulda saved $100 if I had waited. But then again, I would have mised several months of gloating to my relatives and several months jacking off looking at my imaculate Movies.

Also, DE, you may want to consider Dish. After they add 6 more channels 1st Q, they will be up to 25 available HD channels. Plus they will be running a free mpeg2 Olympics channel.

$299 for the current 942 HD DVR, and a $99 upgrade in April=$398. $1 cheaper and more available programming. But the little lady might bitch a little because Dick is in a pissing contest with Lifetime right now so it is currently turned off. But hopefully your wipe has a brain and doesn't watch that shit!!! LOL
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#46992 - 01/11/06 10:21 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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That is my wife's number one favorite channel and Lifetime isn't the only womans channel they don't have. The wife's Mother is switching from Dish to Directv because of lost channels. So Dish is not an option at this time.

I just got off the phone with Directv. The rep said the new mpeg4 DVR receiver is due out this Summer and that no upgrade to the HD10-250 or swap out is in the works, I'd be screwed and out of $399. I promptly canceled my order. She did so without hesitation and even agreed with my decision. She said they would contact me when the new receivers are available. She did try to push the standard HD receiver for the meantime but I'm too addicted to my Tivo, must have DVR.

I guess I wait a few months before turning my bigscreen from a Ford to a anything but a Ford.


A BIG THANK YOU for saving me four bills.

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#46993 - 01/13/06 01:04 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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Well one thing you should realize about talking to DirecTV reps. They all have different story..... My understanding from what I've been reading is that when the time comes they will have a plan in place to do a swap out for those with the HD10-250. I mean logics tells you that they will have to something since those units are considered DirecTV boxes. No way they will leave customers with those units hanging considering the investment those customers have made. Generally people with those units also sub to the highest programming packages as well.....

As far as the mpeg4? Well right now the only channels being offered for the local markets that are activated are the 4 major network channels. Eventually all local channels will be converted over but I don't think that will happen for awhile.
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#46994 - 01/13/06 03:17 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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I'll have to call again and jack with another rep.

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#46995 - 01/13/06 09:29 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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You speak Iranian?
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#46996 - 01/14/06 07:33 AM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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So far (knock on wook), the reps sound American with good English. Unless they have a really good training program going on down in India.

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#46997 - 01/21/06 10:46 PM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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DEwillget8 said:
So far (knock on wook), the reps sound American with good English. Unless they have a really good training program going on down in India.




You wanna knock on a japanese pan? Maybe it's YOU that speaks broken English.
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#46998 - 01/22/06 08:27 AM Re: HDTV Showtime or HBO
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