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#126235 - 12/13/11 11:45 PM US calls for ban on in-car phone use ... even with
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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/1...-with-bluetooth

The report isn't binding, but it's likely to be influential with lawmakers. NBC's Tom Costello reports.
By M. Alex Johnson, msnbc.com

Updated at 4 p.m. ET: The government's transportation safety experts recommended Tuesday to ban all American drivers from using portable electronic devices — including cellphones, even if you use a hands-free device.

The recommendation, which isn't binding but which is likely to influence the decisions of Congress and state legislatures in writing new safety laws, makes only two exceptions: You could still use GPS navigation devices, and you could use your cellphone in an emergency.

"No call, no text, no update, is worth a human life," Deborah Hersman, chairwoman of the National Transportation Safety Board, said at a news conference in Washington.

Besides calling for government action, the NTSB also urged consumer electronics manufacturers to figure out a way to "disable the functions of portable electronic devices within reach of the driver when a vehicle is in motion" while at the same time being able to turn themselves back on in an emergency.


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Jason Oxman, a senior vice president of the Consumer Electronics Association, said that as far as he knew, "nothing that would meet all of those parameters would exist today."

In general, Oxman told msnbc.com, the focus should be on drivers' choices, not on "specific devices." He endorsed the NTSB's recommendations to the extent that they would regulate activities that take the driver's eyes off the road — “manual texting while driving, for example, you shouldn't be allowed to do it," he said. But he criticized the safety board's suggestion to disallow hands-free devices like Bluetooth earpieces.

"It may be that NTSB, in searching for a solution, is not aware of all of the technologies that exist today, and that is one reason we look forward to the opportunity to work with them," he said.

Safety advocates have long called for such a ban like the one the NTSB proposed Tuesday to reduce the phenomenon of distracted driving, which the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says killed 3,092 people in 2010.

The NHTSA reported last week that about 20 percent of all drivers and 50 percent of drivers 21 to 24 years old admit to having texted while driving. Overall, more than three-quarters of drivers say they are willing to answer calls on all, most or some trips.

"People continue to make bad decisions about driving distracted — but what's clear from all of the information we have is that driver distraction continues to be a major problem," NHTSA Administrator David Strickland said last week in reporting the numbers.

But similar studies linking cellphone use to poor driving have been challenged, most recently by researchers at Wayne State University in Detroit, who concluded last month that some earlier studies were seriously flawed.

The report, published in the journal Epidemiology, examined to earlier studies that examined crashes in which cellphone records showed that the driver had used a cellphone. Those studies "likely overestimated the relative risk for cellphone conversations," the researchers said, because they improperly assumed that the drivers were actually in motion when they were on the phone — in other words, they didn't factor in such so-called part-time driving.

Only 10 states ban handheld devices right now, and 35 ban texting while driving.

The recommendation comes following the NTSB's investigation of an August 2010 accident in Gray Summit, Mo., involving a pickup truck, two school buses and several other vehicles.

The accident was blamed on the 19-year-old driver of the pickup, who sent or received 11 texts in the 11 minutes before the pileup, which killed two people and injured 38 others.

"That finding raises a red flag to all of us on the highways," Hersman said.

The NTSB recommendation wouldn't cover GPS devices, but — if it eventually becomes law — it would ban using your phone for any reason, even with a Bluetooth headset or speakers. The only exception would be to call 911 in an emergency.
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#126239 - 12/14/11 01:58 AM Re: US calls for ban on in-car phone use ... even with [Re: dudster]
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As soon as they pass a law on no women or trannies putting on makeup while they drive wil this law make sense.
This is so typical of government.

Every friggin state has a law about inattentive driving. Can we just use that as a catch all? Do we really need more rules??

Two of my vehicles have had BT built in since they rolled off the assembly line. As soon as I open a door my iPhone syncs right up with the COMAND center. I can then use car's voice control to do almost anything on the phone or control navi, climate, Sirius, CDs and radio.

I really hope this does not go through into law. The local law enforcement agencies around here enforce inattentive driving pretty darn well.
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#126258 - 12/14/11 07:56 PM Re: US calls for ban on in-car phone use ... even with [Re: Oddjob]
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December 12, 2011
In U.S., Fear of Big Government at Near-Record Level
Democrats lead increase in concerns about big government
by Elizabeth Mendes

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' concerns about the threat of big government continue to dwarf those about big business and big labor, and by an even larger margin now than in March 2009. The 64% of Americans who say big government will be the biggest threat to the country is just one percentage point shy of the record high, while the 26% who say big business is down from the 32% recorded during the recession. Relatively few name big labor as the greatest threat.



http://www.gallup.com/poll/151490/Fear-Big-Government-Near-Record-Level.aspx

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#126513 - 12/28/11 09:05 AM Re: US calls for ban on in-car phone use ... even with [Re: brooklyn]
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I'm all for stopping texting and doing the NYTimes crossword while driving. Don't have too much problem with talkin' on a phone.
The one that really got my attention was the day a minivan crossed 2 lanes and nearly drove me off into the median while the illegal immigrant lady was texting furiously in Spanish.
Biatch glared at me like it was my fault... the only time I can remember ever openly flipping off another driver to her face. Should'a seen her face then! laugh
She instantly texted somebody about that, too. (As she drifted back over to the exit lane...)
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#126532 - 12/29/11 10:15 AM Re: US calls for ban on in-car phone use ... even with [Re: Monk]
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In September we had a new distracted driving law take effect in Alberta. Basic details of it are no shaving, putting on makeup, reading the paper, fiddling with gps, music players, cell, texting, ect. Its still ok to use a cell with handsfree. BlueTooth has hard to find at some places the last few weeks of August.
A distracted driving ticket is $172. Luckly you don't get points on your license, its only a fine so no insurance rate increase. Technically we already had a law that covered all the above, but wasn't heavily enforced 'Driving with Undue Care' which gets you a $402/6 points = insurance rate increases. If you ask me I'll take the distracted driving.
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#129362 - 05/13/12 09:39 AM Re: US calls for ban on in-car phone use ... even with [Re: dudster]
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I think it should be legal for me to run your ass to the ditch if you are using your cell phone.

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